Once again, they're talking about Richard Desmonds donation to the Labour Party and I notice that there seems to be an assumption that pornography is a bad thing. Now I am not at all sure about this. I recognize that it can be exploitative but it isn't necessarily. Nor is it necessarily unhealthy - I tend to think of it as an aid to fantisizing for the unimaginative. Its not illegal so why should we not accept this donation as just another one from a business man?
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Date: June 2nd, 2002 03:22 pm (UTC)From:Obviously there is still the argument that it may objectify the person focussed on sexually (whether female or male, I guess) but almost by definition, there is not a(ny need for) a real, solid subject who is exploited in real life. You may argue that R. Crumb's sexual comics work (much of which isn't porn -- ie erotic -- so much as sexually explicit) is degrading, and portrays a negative image of women and therefore puts back the cause of seeing women as people; but I don't think you can argue that women were harmed or exploited in the making of it. Unless we hear otherwise from Aline Kominski-Crumb, and one would think she would have told us by now (or did she, and I missed it?).
And stuff like Omaha, or Xxxenophile, which pretty much have to be the fruit of the author's fevered imagination and little else (and which is very sex-positive, to boot) is about as immune to counter-argument as anything I can think of. Not that it stops some people being up in arms about such stuff, of course...
I'm slightly cross because yesterday I bought Vol 3 of Dirty Stories, published by Fantagraphics' Eros line. By dirty stories, they really just seem to mean gross stories and pictures, not decent quality porn. I seem to recall that this was Dylan Horrocks' disappointment with vol 1 (which I also bought -- his story is the best one in it). At any rate, in his Comics Journal article, he aspires to writing & drawing good, lusty porn that actually turns you on. Bravo, I say.
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Date: June 2nd, 2002 03:26 pm (UTC)From:Of course, this same argument works for much erotic prose fiction. Duh.
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Date: June 2nd, 2002 07:22 pm (UTC)From:You might even say they went "sponngg" (or was it "spunngg"? One of you SF experts is sure to know...)
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Date: June 3rd, 2002 02:18 am (UTC)From:Surprised it didn't push your buttons too & give instant essay -- but I gues you have other things to think about, like work. I was just watching old Buffy.
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Date: June 3rd, 2002 04:20 am (UTC)From:no subject
Date: June 2nd, 2002 07:25 pm (UTC)From:I don't care what he publishes, I care that he & others are allowed to donate at all. It's time political parties stopped being funded this way...
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Date: June 3rd, 2002 02:25 am (UTC)From:Re:
Date: June 3rd, 2002 04:24 am (UTC)From:Seriously, the donation system is just inevitably going to lead to corruption. Let them eat breadcrumbs.
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Date: June 3rd, 2002 08:03 am (UTC)From:Some of the outrage over Desmonds seemed to be about the "specialist" nature of his titles (ethnic and age groups) rather than anything rational. (lik. one critics negative review of the "Crash" film for portraying "sex with cripples").