It's true that things have got a lot better for parents and I don't object to that in general. The suggestion that letting children into pizza resturants was a sign of new child loving Britain was mostly what made it seem like someone very self absorbed to me - children have been eating in pizza resturants since I was a child, I assume that pre children he just wasn't eating in pizza resturants.
Why is the demise of the Routemaster bus parents fault? I've not heard of that one? Seriously, I don't object to any of the examples you give - in fact, I would say that mum/baby screenings and family carriages benefit both sides because it gets the tired and grumpy toddlers who are either grizzling or screeching or running around (not that they all do, but there's always one, I find) out of the way of those of us who really need to catch up on our sleep :) Its one of those debates where both sides tend to get represented by really annoying people who take it much further than rational adults should. In fact I can't think of any public debates that aren't like that. Ah well.
The one thing that *does* tick me off with family friendly policies as it's nearly always portrayed as "our good record on womens issues" or "appealing to our female customers" or whatever - nearly all family friendly policies are parents issues, not womens issues!
Anyway, rant over. None of the actual people with children I know are child-evangelical and most of you have rather cute children. And I do like them, as long as I can pass them back when it's nappy changing time, or whatever :)
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Re: Swimming against the tide
Date: June 15th, 2005 12:17 pm (UTC)From:Why is the demise of the Routemaster bus parents fault? I've not heard of that one? Seriously, I don't object to any of the examples you give - in fact, I would say that mum/baby screenings and family carriages benefit both sides because it gets the tired and grumpy toddlers who are either grizzling or screeching or running around (not that they all do, but there's always one, I find) out of the way of those of us who really need to catch up on our sleep :) Its one of those debates where both sides tend to get represented by really annoying people who take it much further than rational adults should. In fact I can't think of any public debates that aren't like that. Ah well.
The one thing that *does* tick me off with family friendly policies as it's nearly always portrayed as "our good record on womens issues" or "appealing to our female customers" or whatever - nearly all family friendly policies are parents issues, not womens issues!
Anyway, rant over. None of the actual people with children I know are child-evangelical and most of you have rather cute children. And I do like them, as long as I can pass them back when it's nappy changing time, or whatever :)