tinyjo: (me - b&w)
Emptied of expectation. Relax. ([personal profile] tinyjo) wrote2003-06-13 03:57 pm

The End.

Watched the last ever Buffy last night, and I have to say, I was not impressed. It was a distinctly average episode (and that's even a little kind). It had a nice idea and there were a couple of good bits of banter - I enjoyed the Buffy/Faith scene for example - there were some pretty dreadful bits, particularly with Angel.

What was she blithering on about choice for near the end anyway? None of the potentials had a choice about getting the slayerness. Only Willow got to choose. And why wait til they were already inside to do it? There didn't seem to be any need. Also, sending Angel off to hold a putative second front was dumb - if they'd failed any second front would have had no chance. I can forgive that slightly though by assuming that that was just to get him out of the way so that she could hug Spike.

Sadly, I've still to be convinced that they should ever have made Seasons 6 and 7. There's been some OK episodes, and the musical episode was great but most of Season 6 was pretty bad and while Season 7 has been much better, it hasn't hit the heights that Buffy used to. I also think that the last episode of Season 5 would have been a really kick-ass way to end the series. It was the best use of a pre-credits sequence ever, I think and it was a pretty damn good episode. That would have been going out with a bang rather than a whimper.

Oh yeah, and what's with Sky postponing the next episode of Angel to show some dumb-ass Buffy documentary (I'm assuming it was dumb-ass as I didn't watch it). Do they not realise that Angel is in a pretty exciting suspenseful place too and we want to know what happens next? Bastards. Actually, it suddenly occurs to me that they may be planning to do a double bill next week to finish up, which wouldn't be too bad. But still.

[identity profile] zoo-music-girl.livejournal.com 2003-06-13 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it was very disappointing wasn't it? I actually turned off halfway through as it was getting late (I've been watching downloaded episodes, I watched the other half the next night). I didn't used to be able to do that in an ordinary episode, nevermind a season, nay, series finale.

[identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com 2003-06-13 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
Watched the last ever Buffy last night, and I have to say, I was not impressed.

Hmm. I liked it. Most of its flaws were problems associated with S7, rather than flaws inherent in the episode. Apart from anything else, it had too much work to do - there were elements of 'Chosen' that should have been introduced and developed several episodes ago.

But on balance, a decent ending.

pretty dreadful bits, particularly with Angel

...Apart from this. There seems to be an unwritten rule that whenever Angel shows up on Buffy, he has to magically shed all his character development. :-/

None of the potentials had a choice about getting the slayerness.

Uh...That's what the scene with Buffy asking them all what they thought of her plan was for, wasn't it?

Actually, it suddenly occurs to me that they may be planning to do a double bill next week to finish up

Nope. There's another Buffy special ('Buffy's Boys', or some such) at 8, followed by Angel's penultimate episode at 9. Then the season finale of Angel is the week after...

[identity profile] tinyjo.livejournal.com 2003-06-13 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
None of the potentials had a choice about getting the slayerness.

Uh...That's what the scene with Buffy asking them all what they thought of her plan was for, wasn't it?

It didn't really come off that way to me though - it came off exactly like the one where she told them her plan and they chucked her out - as far as she was concerned, that was what they were going to do and it wasn't up for discussion. Only difference is, Willow backed her up this time. You think she would have called it off if a couple of them were scared of the risk?

[identity profile] swisstone.livejournal.com 2003-06-13 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
I think the choice was not whether to become full Slayers, but whether to actually go into the Hellmouth and face the Ubervamps. I have a much longer post about this episode, and Season 7 generally, that I shall put online tomorrow, I think.

[identity profile] coalescent.livejournal.com 2003-06-13 12:11 pm (UTC)(link)
No, the choice was definitely whether or not to become slayers. "Slayers...every one of us. Make your choice. Are you ready to be strong?", she says.

I think the question of whether she'd have called it off if the potentials had been scared misses the point somewhat; the fact that this time, she'd got the leadership business *right*. That she wasn't commanding, she was leading and that dammit, it was a pretty decent plan!

[identity profile] tinyjo.livejournal.com 2003-06-14 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
You see, to me she came off exactly the same as before, but this time they just took it. Also, it was a crap plan. If Spike's bit of jewellery hadn't done something entirely unexpected then they would all have died. And what the hell was the idea of putting 6 civilians on their own upstairs. It was so obvious that if any of the vamps got up there they would be shafted. I'm surprised more of them didn't die (and I think that if those vamps were as strong as the first ubervamp we'd seen, they would have). And why the hell did they wait til they were already there before Willow did her spell - if it had gone wrong in any way they would have been shafted.
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actually, I thought it was a lot of fun

[identity profile] cleanskies.livejournal.com 2003-06-13 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
plot development, sex, bad jewellery, serious property damage, and no fucking whining.

I especially liked the bit where she jumped off the top of the bus and those ridiculously inappropriate shows turned magically into a pair of chunky boots. Priceless.

actually, I thought it was a lot of fun

[identity profile] tinyjo.livejournal.com 2003-06-13 09:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but annoying badly done plot development. They wouldn't even have won if it hadn't been for the fact that Spikes jewellery turned itself on. Very low on whining, though, that's true.
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[identity profile] cleanskies.livejournal.com 2003-06-13 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
I also liked the adverts for Buffy's Boys. And watched the documentary, which was not so much god-awful as perhaps a little too honest.

I think it's funny how Angel instantly turns *completely shit* around Buffy. Mind you, I think it's funny whenever Angel does anything embarrassing.